“...take vacation. You’d be amazed… a vacation should NOT be under-rated and should NOT be a working vacation. Take time away from your work – because it is not sustainable. (and it wasn’t necessary).”

— Katie Macarelli

What does that fine line look like between working really really hard, because hard work is in your blood and your work ethic won't allow you to do any less... and burnout? When do you know it's time to change careers or jobs, especially when you love the work you're doing and the people you're working with? How do you know when it's time to pivot? How much health, happiness, connection, family, and exercise can we give up before a job has taken too much from us?

TRANSITION CAN BE SCARY.

BUT SOMETIMES OUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT.

Explore these topics with us as I interview one of my very best friends, Katie Macarelli.

Ep.30: Katie Macarelli, On Transition